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DOES AFFIRMATIVE ACTION HELP COLLEGE STUDENTS? (927 hits)


All across the country, high school seniors are gearing up to apply to college. Many of them assume that the best thing they can do to ensure a bright future is to attend the most prestigious school that has accepted them -- even if their race, athletic prowess or rich uncle helped them get in.

But according to a December report of the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, that may be a mistaken strategy -- at least for students hoping for a degree in science or engineering.

The extensive research compiled in that report concludes that accepting an affirmative action leg-up probably hurts a student's chances of becoming a doctor, scientist or engineer. A better strategy is to attend a school at which one's entering academic credentials roughly match the median student's.

Contrary to some people's expectations, college-bound African-Americans express a desire to major in science and engineering as often as whites and maybe a little more often. But something happens during college, and they disproportionately abandon that ambition, taking up softer majors instead. By graduation, African-Americans are markedly underrepresented in science and engineering bachelor's degrees -- a gateway credential for many well-paying, prestigious careers.

For decades, some blamed the attrition problem wholly on African-Americans' science-related standardized test scores, which remain on average lower than those of whites or Asians. It should surprise no one to learn that students with lower standardized test scores are indeed less likely to stick with science and engineering than students with higher scores, no matter where they attend school.

But that's not the whole story.

As three independent scholarly studies show, part of the problem appears to be relative. A student who attends a college at which his entering credentials put him near the bottom of the class -- which is where a student who needed an affirmative action preference will be -- is less likely to persevere in science or engineering than an otherwise identical student attending a school at which those same credentials put him in the middle of the class or higher.

The reasons for this comparative effect are doubtless complex. But they are based on a common everyday observation: A good student can get in over his head and end up learning little or nothing if he is placed in a classroom with students whose level of academic preparation is much higher than his own, even though he is fully capable of mastering the material when presented at a more moderate pace. Discouraged, he may even give up -- even though he would have persevered and ultimately succeeded in a somewhat less competitive environment.

The effect does not appear to be slight. In a 2004 article, University of Virginia psychology professor Frederick Smyth and University of Southern California psychology professor John McArdle predicted that 45 percent more minority women and 35 percent more minority men in their sample would have persisted in science and engineering if they had attended schools where their academic credentials matched their peers.

Further proof of the inadvertent harm being caused by affirmative action can be found in the remarkable success of historically black colleges and universities, where half of African-American students naturally have entering credentials in the top half of the class.

HBCUs graduate more than their proportionate share of African-American students with science and engineering degrees and send more than their share on to get Ph.D.s at mainstream institutions. A few years back, for example, the National Science Foundation reported that with only 20 percent of total African-American enrollment, HBCUs produce 40 percent of the African-Americans graduating with a bachelor's degree in the natural sciences. This is impressive.

All of this is something high school seniors deserve to know. The commission challenges colleges and universities to tell them.
Posted By: Siebra Muhammad
Friday, December 24th 2010 at 2:32PM
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Make that 2 NUPs!
Friday, December 24th 2010 at 7:46PM
Siebra Muhammad
mY BEAUTIFUL ALMOST PERFECT DAUGHTER ...MY PURE ***** IS UP OVER THIS ARTICLE...AND ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THIS THAT HAS US LEADING THE FIGHT IN DEMEANING US AS NOT MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE ON CUE (RACIST C-U-E) BY THE POWERS THAT BE!!!!!

example, are there no doctors, lawyers, scientist, ect. comIng out fo the state of Ca. because we as a people are so much like machines that we can not do this, because we have no Affrimative Action...oh and how many state female Black senaters did tHis state get when we had Affrimative Action???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE GIVE THIS A REST FOR OUR RACE'S SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NUP)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...WAKE UP AMERICA...AND LEARN THI SAS A TRUTH- FACT IF YOU REJECT EVERYTHING ELSE...THE ASIANS LEAD IN ALL FIELDS OF EDUCATION, P-E-R-I-O-D...AND ALL OF YOUR MOST EXPENSIVE / EXCLUSIVE COLLEGES ARE NOT HAVING PROFESSORS TEACHING THERE THAT WERE TAUGHT IN AMERICA. P-E-R-I-O-D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ONLY IN AMERICA DO WE REJECT TRUTH / FACTS. (N...U...P)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
lOV, THNAKS FOR THIS POST AS i JUST MADE MY LATEST FOOD FOR THOUGH BLOG AND FEEL SO MUCH BETTER ABOUT HTIS POST OF YOURS...WE NEED THIS FROM ALL SIDES LIKE THIS. (SMILE)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
...SPEAKING FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCES and, maybe because I went to college at 48 and ot at 18is that tenured professors at the university I attended UCD is the worst thing (besides davis Ca. still not being intergrated) a teen who is away form home for teh first time can become a living night mare...The only time you see your professor is druing the two hour lecture he/she may have created years ago and you during a test had better give it right back to them as they gave it to you during the lecture or the film you say on top of the maybe 4-5 books you must buy and use maybe two chapters from...

the professors at many colleges have more interest in theirown projects saay research for a blook tehy must write as they must be uptodate in their books ect...a student right out of high school is use to having give and take with teh teachers druing and after class..not in a 4 year college!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is why me, as our president put major imphsis on community college first as a way to adjust to tis life changing shock taht can turn into ta living nightmare for our youth...

no research study or media telling us this now it there...so here is where it is up to the parents and the students to start to look into college and direct contact with teh departments they want to major or minor in and student clubs will help also...but we must first get our Black community to become interested in SURVIVAL ON A DAILY BASIC ON THERI OWN LEVELS...

FOOD FOR THOUGHT...been there done that and no i am not of your generation but college life is like this then and now. lol(smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
Clark, I have shared this with the site before and my personal experience with this false image about AA that turned out to only end up abusing and misusing us to allow TOKENISM to become our social norm thererfore locking out other qualified minority peoples is why I was gald when it became illegal in our state (and, besides they actually show and teach the original Aa in the Black departments to farther drive tis home to our people on how it has been sued to do teh exact opposit of what it was intended to do...any way I digress...

"I" was so exciete when I recieved my acceptance at UCB...I too it to show my community college about it...My English professor Mr. May's remark to me was , "What program did you get accepted on"...to which I asked him what grad did I get i his class and when he said an "A", I asked what caused him to believe I did not get the same grade in my other classes and qualify to be accepted...

He was White and he turned pure white as all of the blood left is face as I looked at him in his shame. I walked off after giving my grin from ear to ear. (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
@Clark, this may just be only in Ca....but what gets you at the head of the line in getting into a 4 year college are these three things...are you p-o-o-r, are you the first in your family to attend college, will you be come displaced if you attend (expecially if parents or not on your parents taxes)that college...


and, if you want a field to major in and it is hard to get into the college on a less crowded field and transfer after you get accepted...continuing students get first priority in the tight majors...

now here is something I found out on my own...being brain dead in math, I found out the the math savy students were brain dead in Philosophy and Psychology which I excelled in and we took advantage of each others short comings...our grades took such amajor up take we were at first thought to be cheating...but because we had put these classes off having failed them earlier until the last minute it was either pass or not graduate and mess up our gpa at the same time...

where their is a will there is a way. lol (smile)
Thursday, April 10th 2014 at 6:47PM
ROBINSON IRMA
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